And what about Javier Bardem, Paz Vega and Pedro Almodovar? Are they POC too? Honest question.

Is OP a person of "issues"? Please feel free to comment below!

Yes, of course. What kind of retarded question is this?

They are Europeans and as white as any other European. Is Catherine Deneuve a person of color? How about Julie Andrews?

They are ethnic europeans. How can europeans be people of color? I really don't understand.

So ethnic Europeans aren’t people of color? Idris Elba is not a person of colour?

Idris Elba is ethnic african. Do you know what ethnicity means?

No OP, they are europeans. But You already knew this.

Idris Elsa is British, not African.

Ethnicity and nationality are two different things.

I created this thread because I've seen plenty of people on twitter saying that Antonio Banderas is a man of color. I figured this was an american thing.

OP, most Americans think that the Spaniards are as racially mixed as the various Hispanics who are from the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central and South America. The majority of the Spaniards, however, are caucasian.

OP, are you a Russian bot? Just an honest question.

Sorry but this is a very american thing.

In europe nobody will say that they are not white. They are mediterranean, not all whites are aryans

Americans are so provincial. They think spanish is an amerindian language and surnames like Lopez and Perez are a POC thing.

[quote]I created this thread because I've seen plenty of people on twitter saying that Antonio Banderas is a man of color. I figured this was an american thing.

Twitter users claiming that Spaniards are “people of color” isn’t an American thing, it’s a stupid people thing.

Even though the English sometimes were weird in the 19th and early 20th centuries in racialized terms about Southern Mediterranean people being not fully "white," they still previously allowed their heirs to the throne to marry Spaniards (Mary I married Philip of Spain when she was on the throne) and Italians (James II married Mary of Modena when he was the heir presumptive to the throne), so the idea of a racial difference with Southern Europeans being not fully "white" seems to be more of a historicized construct.

Race truly is mostly a construct of historicized circumstances. It has little basis in biology.

Spanish is a dirty language. Ugliest language in the world.

Here’s a question for the Twitter morons: Pope Francis (real name Jorge Mario Bergoglio) is a Spanish-speaking Argentinian citizen, born and raised in Buenos Aires, of Italian ethnic origin.

So is he Hispanic? Is he Latino? Is he Italian (or European)? And is he a Person of Color?

He looks Caucasian and white as snow to me.

I'm German and consider all Europeans, Northern and Southern "white". I even consider Arabs 'white".

Pope Francis certainly is Latino: he was born and raised in Latin America, and speaks Spanish language as his native language.

I am less sure if he could qualify as Hispanic since both his parents were born in Italy.

Wait: scratch what I said at r22. I was wrong.

"Latino" is a term used for inhabitants of the United States with ties to Latin America, so Pope Francis would NOT qualify.

However, he does qualify as Hispanic, since he was born and raised in a Latin American country where Spanish was the national language and his first language. He also (of course) qualifies as a Latin American.

In terms of race: according to wikipedia, "Hispanic or Latino origin is independent of race and is termed "ethnicity" by the United States Census Bureau." The term for being of aboriginal Latin American origin is "Lestizo," which is not used as racial term in the US Census Bureau and is often less familiar to non-Latino or non-Hispanic American citizens.

[quote]I'm German and consider all Europeans, Northern and Southern "white". I even consider Arabs 'white".

What about French citizens of African ethnic origin?

R22 Wait, the first Latin American pope for all intents and purposes is really Italian? Well that explains how they let that one slide by. Was it all an elaborate setup to look like they were finally embracing other parts of the world while really just toeing the corporate line?

The US is the only country that obsesses about the ethnicity of it's citizens, it's fucking weird.

The fact that your Great, great-grandparents came from Italy or Ireland doesn't make you Italian or Irish.

They are white but not "aryan".

Ask Alfred, he knows.

R17 Mary the1st was herself half Spanish in any case, her Mother was Catherine of Aragon. If she and Phillip II had progeny the future Monarch of England would have been three quarters Spanish.

The term “Latino” is extremely stupid. It’s used almost exclusively to refer to Spanish-speaking people from South America. Brazilians are a gray area.

French, Italian, and Portuguese are also Latin languages, yet we don’t refer to the French as “Latinos”.

I suspect many uneducated Twitter users think that Latin is a language native to South America.

If anyone has a right to describe themselves as “Latino”, it would be modern Italians. The Latin language developed on their peninsula.

[quote] French, Italian, and Portuguese are also Latin languages, yet we don’t refer to the French as “Latinos”.

Don’t forget us!

Spaniards are Europeans. They consider themselves to be white unless they’ve married persons of other ethnicities.

Spanish people mixed with north africans during centuries. A lot of them look arab/semitic.

OP will most likely be spending New Year's Eve entertaining himself with a bottle of cheap champagne, his hand, and Ryan Secrest.

[quote]The US is the only country that obsesses about the ethnicity of it's citizens, it's fucking weird.

What an amazing pile of crap. Have you never heard of Brits complaining about "Asians?" By the way, when they say Asian, they mean Pakistani, but that just isn't specified. Wouldn't want to look like a pile of screaming racists, would they.

Try reading up on what the Japanese think of their fellow citizens of Korean origin. Then you can read up on the ugly things Swedes say about the Sami.

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